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  Posted 25 November 2018 - 12:24 PM

'Never Trump' Republicans went Democrat in 2018. Are they gone for good?




https://www.nbcnews.com
By Benjy Sarlin
Nov. 25, 2018


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Mocked as irrelevant after President Trump's election, voters who leaned Republican in prior races handed Democrats huge wins in suburban districts

Kristin Olsen, who until 2016 led the Republican caucus in California’s state assembly, surveyed the wreckage of the recent midterms in her state and came to a bitter conclusion: "The Grand Old Party is dead," she wrote in an op-ed.

Olsen, 44, told NBC News that Republicans had already struggled to adapt to a changing state, but the “division, hostility, vindictiveness, and lies?coming from President Donald Trump’s White House was a knockout punch.

“It was the straw that broke the camel’s back for many, many, many Republican voters,?she said.

In the Central Valley, where Olsen is a county official, a surge in Latino turnout overwhelmed four-term Congressman Jeff Denham. But the most jarring losses came in suburban Orange County, an iconic GOP enclave where Richard Nixon was born and buried and where anti-tax activists helped lead the Reagan Revolution. Democrats won all four GOP-held seats.

Figures like Olsen, who identified as Republican but opposed Trump in 2016, were often mocked as irrelevant after his victory. Polls showed Republican voters united behind his presidency, despite nagging opposition from retiring GOP politicians and a handful of conservative pundits.

But the midterm wave, where Democrats won close to 40 seats and romped in the suburbs, seems to have included a lot of voters who look like Olsen.

“It was the revenge of the Never Trumpers in the House,?said David Wasserman, an elections analyst for Cook Political Report and an NBC News contributor and senior analyst with the NBC Election Unit.

One analysis by Democratic firm Catalist showed a 24 point swing among white college-educated women toward Democrats from 2014 to 2018.

Exit polls also showed Democrats cleaning up with independents by a 12-point margin, a group Republicans won as recently as 2016 and even in 2012. That could be a sign that some recent GOP-leaning voters no longer identify with the party, which would come as no surprise to Olsen.

“There's not a week that's gone by over the last couple of years that I haven't thought about whether it’s time to change my registration to 'no party preference,'?Olsen said. “It's a daily struggle for me.?br />
Both parties are still sifting through mountains of data and it will take time to determine how many converts Democrats won versus how much their base's enthusiasm carried the day.

But strategists, pollsters, and nonpartisan analysts who spoke to NBC News say the early data points to a serious problem for the GOP with voters they once counted on, especially suburban women, even as they've made gains with ex-Democrats in rural areas and small towns.

Republicans in many of these suburban districts survived waves before. Trump ally Rep. Dana Rohrabacher had held his Orange County seat since 1988, and the local party chair confidently predicted all four GOP members in the area would do so again.

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 12:52 PM

They never were Republicans, they were RINOs at best.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 01:15 PM

I don’t have a problem with this in the sense that these situations expose people’s true colors. Good riddance.

But I have a much higher level and greater concern with the fact that there are so many stupid voters out there. Why do they think socialism is the answer? Why do they think allowing unfettered illegal immigration is an answer? Why do they think globalization, loss of jobs and poor economy are answers?

Do people vote without thinking, are people so disinterested, or are people so gullible?
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 01:57 PM

View Postzurg, on 25 November 2018 - 01:15 PM, said:



Do people vote without thinking, are people so disinterested, or are people so gullible?


Yes
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 02:04 PM

 zurg, on 25 November 2018 - 01:15 PM, said:

I don’t have a problem with this in the sense that these situations expose people’s true colors. Good riddance.

But I have a much higher level and greater concern with the fact that there are so many stupid voters out there. Why do they think socialism is the answer? Why do they think allowing unfettered illegal immigration is an answer? Why do they think globalization, loss of jobs and poor economy are answers?

Do people vote without thinking, are people so disinterested, or are people so gullible?

It's because they are all that freaking stupid.

Plain and simple.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 04:21 PM

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Olsen, 44, told NBC News that Republicans had already struggled to adapt to a changing state, but the “division, hostility, vindictiveness, and lies?coming from President Donald Trump’s White House was a knockout punch.


Excuse me? Hey Olsen, the "division & hostility & vindictiveness & lies" are mostly coming from the anti-Trump morons, like yourself. Have you watched any TV lately? Read any newspapers? Paid any attention to academia or Hollywood? Any suggestion any of that crap is somehow "Trump's fault" is beyond stupid.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 12:36 AM

Olson needs to wake the EFF up and look at the measures that the Dims in this state will go to to steal elections by rigging them.

She's an idiot and she's clearly not aware of the reality of being in this state.

She needs to shut her ignorant mouth before someone puts something in it.
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 09:38 AM

Lived in Ca did have its advantages (great train yards and mountain passes to watch and aerospace/aircraft boneyards) but Orange County did themselves not favor in the last few years, so my heart does not ache for them. Good bye, see you on the return trip....they have to go thru hell to appreciate heaven!
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