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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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  Posted 26 November 2018 - 08:05 PM

Obama's 'Car Of The Future' Goes Kaput

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by Philip Wegmann
November 26, 2018 03:57 PM

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It came with a turbocharged four-cylinder engine, churned out about 140 horsepower, and made upwards 40 mpg highway. Whatís more, the Chevy Cruze was the only compact sedan to come with a presidential seal of approval.

When a prototype of the 2011 model rolled off the assembly line, then President Barack Obama put his signature on the hood writing that the Cruze was ďthe car of the future.?br />
But the future lasted only seven years. Responding to slumping sales, General Motors announced plans to push the Cruze out of their showrooms and off of a cliff.

President Obama relentlessly promoted the Chevy Volt, promising to buy one when he left office (he didnít)

He also autographed a Chevy Cruz describing is as ďthe car of the future?br />

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GM announced today they will end production for both cars in 2019 pic.twitter.com/qqgR3YdVWW

?Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) November 26, 2018

The Motor City has learned the hard way that what was good for Obamaís green agenda wasnít good for GM. Fuel efficiency made the Cruze a poster child of that presidentís energy legacy. If Detroit could make a car capable of making the round trip between New York City and Washington, D.C. on a single tank of gas (the Cruze comes standard with a 13.7 gallon gas tank and those cities are 220 miles apart), then the automaker could make higher fuel economy standards.

Obama wanted higher Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards, and his administration mandated a 54.5 mpg standard for cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025. Consumers did not, however, want the Cruze.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 09:47 PM

UAW is not happy that the company that was stolen for their benefit is now basically out of the passenger car business. I know SUVs are the thing, but I have always been a sedan guy. At some point I will go rescue a Grand Marquis or Town Car.
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 10:27 PM

Whether it’s cars or political candidates, seems like every schlimazel this schlemiel puts his prestige behind turns to schiesse.

This post has been edited by Ben Cranklin: 26 November 2018 - 10:31 PM

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 05:54 AM

<censored> happens!
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:03 AM

It was a ugly car.

And it was a hybrid passed off as an electric. GM was very misleading with its marketing campaign when the car was introduced.

Besides, GMís capitulation to the government is why I will never own a GM product again.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:52 AM

View PostLiz, on 26 November 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

President Obama relentlessly promoted the Chevy Volt, promising to buy one when he left office (he didnít)


ANOTHER lie? Are there any promises he actually kept?

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He also autographed a Chevy Cruz describing is as ďthe car of the future?br />


I think Obama had fantasies of being like Hitler and his Volkswagen Beetle. Obama and his followers couldn't be more detached from reality. The top two selling vehicles in the United States are pickup trucks. A pickup truck has been at the top of the best selling vehicle list for decades.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSYFS150/vehicle-sales.png

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:06 AM

 Natural Selection, on 27 November 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

ANOTHER lie? Are there any promises he actually kept?



Nope, never.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 08:08 AM

 erp, on 27 November 2018 - 07:03 AM, said:

It was a ugly car.

And it was a hybrid passed off as an electric. GM was very misleading with its marketing campaign when the car was introduced.

Besides, GMís capitulation to the government is why I will never own a GM product again.


:exactly:
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 11:31 AM

View Posterp, on 27 November 2018 - 07:03 AM, said:

It was a ugly car.

And it was a hybrid passed off as an electric. GM was very misleading with its marketing campaign when the car was introduced.

Besides, GMís capitulation to the government is why I will never own a GM product again.


This on all three counts.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 12:29 PM

Well, as we have all witnessed for ourselves over the years, 0-bama's warped view and ideas just don't work well in the real world. Just about everything 0-bama touches turns to sh!t.

Call it: O-botulism
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:25 PM

View PostHieronymous, on 26 November 2018 - 09:47 PM, said:

UAW is not happy that the company that was stolen for their benefit is now basically out of the passenger car business. I know SUVs are the thing, but I have always been a sedan guy. At some point I will go rescue a Grand Marquis or Town Car.


Sedans, too, except for a bare-bones '00 Jeep Cherokee (the small 'XJ' Cherokee) as a 3rd vehicle strictly for utility.

View Posterp, on 27 November 2018 - 07:03 AM, said:

It was a ugly car.

And it was a hybrid passed off as an electric. GM was very misleading with its marketing campaign when the car was introduced.

Besides, GMís capitulation to the government is why I will never own a GM product again.


Same here, tho for different reasons. I grew up in a 'Chrysler' family that could be traced backed to the WWII-era when my 1st-Generation German immigrant Grandfather refused to buy GM or Ford because they were doing business with the Nazis.

Me, I tend to like German cars even in spite of history. As I see it, a German company doing business with the German government (and in many cases, what choice did they have?) is completely different than an American company doing business with the German government against our own national interest.

I had high hopes for the short-lived Daimler-Chrysler merger ('98-'07); Family-relations wise, it would have been the best of both worlds. :) Though aside from the Jeep I hadn't owned a Chrysler product since a well-used '77 New Yorker in the mid-'80s.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:39 PM

 stick, on 27 November 2018 - 12:29 PM, said:

Well, as we have all witnessed for ourselves over the years, 0-bama's warped view and ideas just don't work well in the real world. Just about everything 0-bama touches turns to sh!t.

Call it: O-botulism


:exactly:

0bama: the "King <censored> Midas".
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 03:12 PM

Obama really wants a Yugo.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 04:54 PM

Yugo review

http://youtu.be/n4ejyV27VP8
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 05:44 PM

Well, since he bailed out GM and made it Government Motors, things didn't look so good, but, hey, they got the green just like Solyndra and others who benefitted greatly from his open up the vault policies.

However, I heard on the news that the head of GM is trying to say that the reason they are closing is the outrageous cost of Chinese steel because of Trump's policies.

It amazes me how everyone twists into pretzels coming up with ways to blame Trump for their own failures...

And then I also heard that the UAW is trying to sue GM for closing their plants... WTF? Is that even possible?
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 05:51 PM

View PostHieronymous, on 26 November 2018 - 09:47 PM, said:

UAW is not happy that the company that was stolen for their benefit is now basically out of the passenger car business. I know SUVs are the thing, but I have always been a sedan guy. At some point I will go rescue a Grand Marquis or Town Car.

I know the feeling-I've always been a sedan guy-my 2 favorite cars were a 1991 Dodge Spirit R/T and a 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP. As I have aged a bit, getting up out of a car (currently drive a 2017 Buick Lacrosse) becomes more difficult every year. I recently drove my wife's Terrain and realized how much easier it is to get in and out of. I will miss taking corners at speed but guess that's the way it is...
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 06:14 PM

 Ticked@TinselTown, on 27 November 2018 - 05:44 PM, said:

Well, since he bailed out GM and made it Government Motors, things didn't look so good, but, hey, they got the green just like Solyndra and others who benefitted greatly from his open up the vault policies.

However, I heard on the news that the head of GM is trying to say that the reason they are closing is the outrageous cost of Chinese steel because of Trump's policies.

It amazes me how everyone twists into pretzels coming up with ways to blame Trump for their own failures...

And then I also heard that the UAW is trying to sue GM for closing their plants... WTF? Is that even possible?


Employee at Verizon told me that certain iPhones are built at one specific plant in China. Those models have been defective and on backorder because of the tariffs. I suggested that Verizon open new manufacturing in the good old US of A. After all, increasing domestic production and good paying jobs are the objective. Well, the Verizon employee had his own objections. Idiot.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:03 PM

View PostFirst Sarge, on 27 November 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:


Another story about a Yugo. I remember when this happened.

https://www.chicagot...0020-story.html
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:16 PM

View PostCoach, on 27 November 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Obama really wants a Yugo.


Believe it or not, the was a time when *I* wanted a Yugo. There was a time when I liked small cars, especially Fiats. I owned several over the years: A 124, 128 hatchback, 128, 131, 124 "Spider 2000", Strada, Brava, X1/9. Mostly used ones from the '70s that I owned in the early '80s; Newest at the time was the '80 Brava that I bought in '82 with 20K-ish miles.

http://oi66.tinypic.com/9qvgjm.jpg
Top: '72 Fiat 124, '76 128 "3P" hatchback, '79 128 sedan, '78 131
Bottom: '80 Fiat Spider, '79 Strada, '79 Brava, '81 X1/9
(These weren't mine, but similar. Though my '79 Strada and '80 Brava were EXACTLY like the above)

My x1/9 was metallic green rather that red. I nicknamed it "Kermit" because it was green AND when the headlights were up it DID look sort of like a stylized frog.

I once had a sign that said:

Kermit parking only
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All others will be toad.


I loved every one of them, quirks and all. Then Fiat stopped importing in '83.

Yugo started importing in '85. I knew from being a Fiat fan and reading the auto magazines that Yugo was essentially a '70s Fiat 127 with Zastava having bought the second-hand tooling.

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2v8395w.jpg
'79 Fiat 127 vs. '87 Yugo GV. except for the retooled hood to make it cheaper for Yugo, EXACTLY the same vehicle.

I was (almost) in Nirvana. "Wow, a brand-new 10-year-old Fiat 127." (I think that's what most would call a "niche" market. LOL)

But... even a year or so in, I heard rumors about quality. As a prior Fiat owner, I initially dismissed it. Yeah, Fiats have quirks and you had to stay on top on maintenance; In the '70s/early '80s they didn't exactly earn the nickname Fix It Again Tony for nothing.

But... YUGOs? All that, raised an order of magnitude. I went to look at one at the local dealer, circa '86 or '87. Salesman shows me one, right off the truck. He goes to open the door, the door handle comes off in his hand.
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Posted 27 November 2018 - 07:24 PM

View PostFirst Sarge, on 27 November 2018 - 04:54 PM, said:


An ex girlfriend of mine had one of those. It really was a bad car. I think she left it once after it stranded her. She, and the car, were horrible, actually. Worst girlfriend I ever had. The car suited her.
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